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snurri ([personal profile] snurri) wrote2006-08-29 12:18 pm
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Fin Fang Foom Put Me In His PANTS.

See here.

My confession:

Despite my lack of disposable income, I still trek to the comics store once a month to drop three bucks on a single comic. Because the pendulum of continuity will ultimately make 52 and Civil War irrelevant, but life without Nextwave is not worth living.

Carry on.

[identity profile] the-flea-king.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
By far my favorite comic right now. It would be tied with Desolation Jones if an issue had come out in the last 4 months.

I don't know why I am such a Warren Ellis fanboy.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why I am such a Warren Ellis fanboy.

Because it is the only sensible way to be?

Also: Dude, why is Godzilla playing basketball?!?

[identity profile] the-flea-king.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
True, I suppose. Fell is damn good too.

As far as Godzilla, all is explained.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
AWESOME.

I just recently discovered the ISB. It has improved my life a hundredfold.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, you do know Transmetropolitan, right?

[identity profile] the-flea-king.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Transmet was the first "modern" comic I read. I grew up reading the ocassional X-Men, but Transmet really opened my eyes to what comics could do these days. Since then, I've done a lot of back-reading, Preacher, etc.

Yes, the ISB is awesome.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't Preacher Garth Ennis? I think so.

[identity profile] the-flea-king.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I just meant it as an example of a good, modern series that I missed and backtracked to after Transmet. Another would be, I dunno, Sandman or something.
(As far as Ellis, I think Transmet is still my favorite)

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah.

Have you checked out much Alan Moore? From Hell is incredible.

[identity profile] the-flea-king.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I still need to read that. I glanced at it a while back, and I was put off by the art a bit--it seemed hard for me to follow--it's black and white, right? I can't read all the manga books for the same reason. I've read the usual suspects with Alan-- League, V, Watchmen.

Another series that I was a huge fan of was The Invisibles. The Filth too, but it seemed mostly a rehashing of Invisibles.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The art takes a little getting used to, but it really helps set the tone and atmosphere. You should check out Top Ten, too (and The Forty-Niners), and Promethea. All excellent.

[identity profile] alicek.livejournal.com 2006-08-30 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Settles it - I need to read Nextwave!

The panel that you linked sort of reminds me of the whole Godzilla wearing the "No Fat Chicks" t-shirt thing in Top Ten.

Everything about Civil War irritates me mightily. Even though I haven't read it. Irrational? I THINK NOT.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-08-30 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Fin Fang Foom is one of the best bits--but there are others, such as:

Kids these days.

Turning your childhood against you!

RE: Top Ten; half of the fun of that series was combing the backgrounds for the in-jokes. Have you read Smax? Same kinda thing.

I read the first issue of Civil War, I think. Before I realized I had no money (I am slow) I was trying to get back into Spidey and The New Avengers. What ticks me off is revealing Spider-Man's identity, because you know they're going to retcon it in some clumsy way within a year. Stupid Marvel.

[identity profile] tacithydra.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my God. I must own this.

And I was trying so hard to break my comics addiction.

Transmet kicked royal ass.

Sandman was also great, in large part because I think Gaiman makes a much better comic book writer than novel writer. And I loved the basic idea of Preacher, but kind of lost interest around fifteen issues in or so.

And I've never been quite clear on why Promethea kept going over Top 10... if I'd had to choose one, I would have by far preferred the latter.

[identity profile] snurri.livejournal.com 2006-09-05 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Transmet kicked royal ass.

Yes.

Sandman was also great, in large part because I think Gaiman makes a much better comic book writer than novel writer.

Yes again. I think he's much better when he's collaborating, in general. Too much of his fiction reads like a pastiche of this or that person.

And I loved the basic idea of Preacher, but kind of lost interest around fifteen issues in or so.

I guess I read all of Preacher, but in the end I didn't very much care for it. It was a bit too bleak and sadistic for my taste.

And I've never been quite clear on why Promethea kept going over Top 10... if I'd had to choose one, I would have by far preferred the latter.

Promethea worked for me, but that's probably because I'm a sucker for all that old school magic theory--the Kabbalah, the Golden Dawn, what have you. It kind of becomes more textbook than story at a certain point, but it's a really damn pretty textbook.

Did love Top 10, though. The Forty-Niners was even better.

[identity profile] tacithydra.livejournal.com 2006-09-08 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes again. I think he's much better when he's collaborating, in general. Too much of his fiction reads like a pastiche of this or that person.

Yeah, I always found his fiction interesting on the surface... but there was always a really shallow, popcorny feel to it that I didn't find in the comics. I'm not sure if it's because stereotypical standards are lower for comics, or if his writing simply gains depth when it's pictorial vs. written, or what.

I guess I read all of Preacher, but in the end I didn't very much care for it. It was a bit too bleak and sadistic for my taste.

Yup. The idea of an angel-demon child, and God wandering around, and how little Heaven really cared for mankind were all fascinating, crunchy concepts to play around with. But so many motherfuckers got their faces shot in or some weird sexual thing done to them that it became really apparent the writing was reveling in it, rather than using it to build a story, and I ended up kind of squicked out.

Promethea worked for me, but that's probably because I'm a sucker for all that old school magic theory--the Kabbalah, the Golden Dawn, what have you. It kind of becomes more textbook than story at a certain point, but it's a really damn pretty textbook.

And see, usually I'm totally big on the symbol systems stuff - Taroh, Kabbalah, astrology, runes, particularly when it's transported into a a fictional system and the story starts working through implications and such. But for some reason Promethea just didn't snag me like things of that type usually do - I think in large part was because the 'system' in this case was very passive. It usually consisted of landscapes that Promethea visited, made observations about, and then moved on. It felt more to me like... almost like a documentary, with Promethea as the narrator.

Which means, I suppose you're right - if I had read it with the expectations I would have had for a really pretty textbook vs. my usual frame when reading comic books, it probably would have been much more engaging.

Hm.