Thanks again. I've never seen that one before, although I'm a big fan of the Fliescher Bros. cartoons. The music was really good but I have to admit that the racism does make me cringe. I really do love the animation though -- the roto-scoping techniques they developed were really amazing (as was that 3D background that wasn't in this one but that they used in a bunch of their cartoons). Have you ever seen their Superman cartoons?
The Superman cartoons are amazing! I've only seen three but I loved them.
The racism ... yeah, cringe-worthy and it defaces an otherwise perfect piece of art. If you liked the music, you might like this album. Words can not describe how good it is.
Once again, thanks. I'll have to see if I can find it through our library system (it's where I get most everything nowadays).
You can sometimes find collections of the Superman cartoons at Toys R Us. My mother found a complete collection about a year ago that she bought for my sons which they loved. Unfortunately there are a few WWII era cartoons, one of which is titled Japatuers that have some pretty racist Yellow Scare depictions like a lot of the propaganda of the time (made for some fun discussions with my three and six year old).
I think the worst example of that I've seen was "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarves" from the same Warner Bros. animation department responsible for Bugs Bunny, et al. Yeah, there was racism in the other Warners cartoons, but this was just beyond belief over the top.
It's not shown very often because it's been banned several times in many different places. I saw it in NY years ago at a Warner Bros. cartoon festival.
The amazing thing about Popeye is that, even though Segar was perfectly happy (and planning) to do away with his character after the Dice Island storyline, when he was brought back he so quickly took over the strip. I think it was only a couple storylines before Ham Gravy was gone, never to be seen again except for a quick background appearance, and only a year and a half or so before Castor was also pushed out. I really love the job Fantagraphics has been doing with their Popeye books.
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Date: 2008-03-28 08:20 pm (UTC)The racism ... yeah, cringe-worthy and it defaces an otherwise perfect piece of art. If you liked the music, you might like this album. Words can not describe how good it is.
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Date: 2008-03-28 08:42 pm (UTC)You can sometimes find collections of the Superman cartoons at Toys R Us. My mother found a complete collection about a year ago that she bought for my sons which they loved. Unfortunately there are a few WWII era cartoons, one of which is titled Japatuers that have some pretty racist Yellow Scare depictions like a lot of the propaganda of the time (made for some fun discussions with my three and six year old).
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Date: 2008-03-28 09:16 pm (UTC)Yeah, I've seen some of those WWII cartoons. YIKES. What's even worse to my eyes is how casual the racism was without a war going.
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Date: 2008-03-29 12:01 am (UTC)Elzie Segar is the best by the way. Popeye is the classic example of a side-character taking over an already existing storyline.
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Date: 2008-03-29 01:00 am (UTC)The amazing thing about Popeye is that, even though Segar was perfectly happy (and planning) to do away with his character after the Dice Island storyline, when he was brought back he so quickly took over the strip. I think it was only a couple storylines before Ham Gravy was gone, never to be seen again except for a quick background appearance, and only a year and a half or so before Castor was also pushed out. I really love the job Fantagraphics has been doing with their Popeye books.
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